should I report incident to authority? as a teacher in a state children's psych. hospital, 15 yr. old girl
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What the principal said was entirely innapropriate. Even if you did report it, I'm not sure if anything would be done about it, since it wasn't sexual or physical. What people don't seem to realize is how emotionally damaging comments like that can be. Make sure that this girl realizes that she's beautiful the way she is. Best of luck, and I hope this principal gets what he deserves.
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Can you make an anonymous report?
I wouldn't say anything at this stage. Document any similiar behaviour, with a brief outline, names and dates. Once you have collected enough evidence, and hopefully others to back you up, than make a complaint to the relevent authorities.
In the mean time, make sure this girl knows she is pretty regardless.
Can you offset the damage he has done? Sometimes in order to protect students we can put them in worse situations. There's a lot to weigh here.
Sounds like a good idea to report it to someone higher up as long as he means it in an incorrect way of course. That is a tough one to call without more information really.
To cover your Backside Chart the incident see rather or not this effected the child (his comment) AND JUST KNOW THAT IF THE CHILD WAS NOT AROUSED SEXUALLY THEN THAT WOULD ROLL ON OUT THE DOOR. I would have a witness because it could become your word against his. But if he is OVER YOU I'd be very Care full because you could lose your job.
His intentions may have been good but his methodology sucks! How did this numbnuts get to be a principal? I would just tell him how inappropriate and counterproductive the remark was and leave it at that.
of course you report him because that is totally inappropriate especially in a physic ward because teenage girls are all ready insecure enough and she obviously has been through some traumatic stuff already and she dont need some idiot calling her fat
why dont you and the other people you work with wright different letters with various complaints and one day just leave them out side hes office he might just need a waek up call to bring him to earth and mention this incident in there also
i hope this helps a bit
REPOERT HIM NOW! Make a call. Who knows how many other people he has said this to. He can ruin peoples lives. Who cares if he knows it was you? He will probably be fired soon anyways.
A few things to consider - you are a "mandated reporter". - you have to report anything that is harmful to a child that you know of. Remember - you did not create the problem, he did.
And if he a poor leader and you do not report him, it continues.
You are looking out for yourself too by keeping your nose clean by reporting it. If you don;t report it and it comes out that you knew you have a greater problem.
And.. if he is a poor leader you may be doing everyone a favor. Don't think his superiors don't already know about his poor leadership.
If you are required - your decision is made or you risk your own job regardless.
how else could he have meant it if not in a sexual way. why would you just randomly say something like that?? you would think someone in a position of authority like that would want to be a positive, responsible leader; especially when children with psychiatric, image and security issues are involved. this guy sounds like a complete scumbag. cant you go to a higher up? if he targets you or tries to fire you, sue his a**!
you answered you own question!! As an employee you are required to report it. So, if things go any further you can also be held as a contributor.
Saying you are in a bind is a cop out. You know the law requires you to report such things, so do it.
Geez, and we wonder why so many things happen now-a-days! This is certainly a great example.
Just do the right thing. Unselfishly. You wont even need to defend yourself because you did the right thing. As you said you are "required to report innappropriate conduct"
The comment, IMHO, was inappropriate, because it was hurtful to a vulnerable person. But, given your situation, reporting it might not be helpful. Unless there are other reports against the principal, all it does is get you in trouble, and probably won't help the girl. Just be a mentor to her.
I don't think he meant any thing by it .But I would take him aside and tell him he needs to be alittle more responsible with the things he says people could make something more out of it.
First of all as a teacher I'd think you would use complete sentences and proper punctuation. Secondly as a teacher you know what is required of you ,however it is a psych. hospital so it may be that this child is making it up . Go to your immediate supervisor or another teacher you can talk to and tell them . You know it needs to be investigated so report it to some one.
Why not address this with the principal? Why so quick to judgement? Maybe the statement was taken out of context. I know that I would want to be given a chance to give my side of the story under the same circumstances. If all teachers feel the same way you do and are afraid to address these concerns at the source is it any wander the man is a poor leader.
be honest any adult male making a comment on the fact that a 15yr old girl would be pretty if she wasn't so fat is not right ..let alone the fact that he is the principle of her school that's just sick ...you need to stop and think of what else is going on this is a very serious thing and anyone in his position these days should not act in this way ...inform the authorities and let them investigate it further..how would you feel if in the future you found out that he was really up to no good and you could have prevented things from going further...at the least he is not doing the right thing by telling a young girl that she is fat just because of all the issues of society on women being thin....he is supposed to be there to help these kids not to make them feel worse
Think about this ... this girl was the one strong enough to tell you about his innappropriate words. I wonder if he's been as inappropriate to anyone else. My guess is yes. Report him. It's your job. He's not doing his job properly, and is probably harming other children too.
That was so inappropriate. I can't believe a principal would do that! He can't get away with that, please don't let him. As a mother, I fear for what will go on at school that I won't know about, but hopefully there is enough decent people (like you) at the school to help protect all of our children. We really should be able to trust the teachers, (and principals!), when we send our kids off to school for the day. I'd try my hardest to get that loser out of there for everyone's sake! There's my 2 cents....
I hope you reassured her and told her he was wrong for saying that. What would you want the teacher to do if that was your child? I understand your predicament but as educators we are advocates for these children. Is there any way to report it anonymously? His comment was sexist and hurtful. We are there to build up not tear down. Children and teens, especially girls have enough pressure on them about their looks. A comment like that can lead anyone who already has self esteem issues to think about doing something drastic or foolish. So again What would you want your child's teacher to do?
Report him. You know what is right. Our kids are valuble assets without someone abusing their authority to hurt or use them.
do the right thing, and report him.
If this is a psychiatric facility and you as an employee are required to report inappropriate conduct, then by all means report this, because this is inappropriate to the extreme. If you feel uncomfortable in telling authorities you are not doing the children at this facility any favors by remaining silent, and are going against the rules yourself by staying silent. If he made this type of comment once, ithe odds are he's done it numerous times and about numerous subjects and chances are the kids keep it to themselves as to not cause waves. He sounds like an absolute bastard that has no business being around children, in particular troubled children. I have a mentally handicapped granddaughter and if this man were her principal I would literally make sure not only the authorities were notified but every member of that school board and every parent I came in contact with as well. Children need not suffer because of insensitivity or ignorance.
teacher in a state run hospital?i would assume u are in a union and have union reps!or a supervisor some-one to discuss this issue with,certainly not here!
You should definetly tell someone, it doesn't seem sexual but he def. called her fat and thats not right, ESSPECIALLY if he is a principle.
It's your job to teach and protect her while she is in such a fragile state, so do it no matter what the personal consequences happen to be.
I don't envy you the spot you are in, but if I were you then, hell yes I'd report his sorry butt.
His comment may not have been sexual but it was totally inappropriate.
Don't worry about what he might do to reciprocate. You have a job to do and part of that job is to help those students. Document absolutely everything that happens from this point on and if he gives you trouble, report him to the highest authority.
The only reason people like him get away with stuff is because people allow it to happen.
Are you willing to fight for your students?
That could be construed as sexually inappropriate behavior. Of course it's her word against his. At best it's emotionally abusive and should be reported. Call Child Protective Services or whatever you have in your state and have them open a case. Sometimes that can be done anonymously. You don't have to prove whether that statement was true or not but as a professional in a capacity to care for someone with an acute psychiatric illness you have a legal obligation. Then it's up to them to prove or disprove what she said. And don't you have some sort of a protective clause in your State Mental Health Code to protect you when reporting abuse? Some sort of a Whistleblower's Act? There should be a list of resources that patients can use to call and report abuse. The number may be there. Good luck.
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