Why is it people with mental health problems are allowed 2 walk the streets when they r a danger 2 the public?
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Hi Dave,
sorry you were caught up in that. Not everyone with mental health issues are a danger to others, infact they are usually people who are just more harm to themselves but never dream of hurting others. Who says anyones sane, you don't have to be diagnosed with a mental illnes to be a danger to society! I suffer with mental illness and there's no way i would dream of harming anyone else. Also people with mental health issues nearly always have to fight to get help, waiting lists to see professionals is fierce, there isn't as much help as we would all like to believe, i think it's a shame but i hope that you can realise that people with mental health issues shouldn't be stigmatised because of this one persons actions, it's not the norm and we who suffer already fight the ignorance of society!
What i am trying to say is, it depends on the problem and the individual. unfortunately there is not always help on hand these days and its up to the individual to seek the help, which is often so hard if they are feeling so bad!
best of luck to you
xxx
Really sad situation isn't it all our mental health hospitals are closing and they have no help. They are just as disabled as those in wheelchairs but as it is not visible they get no sympathy
You should refrase your question. It should not be people with mental health problems. Instead use words like psychos or mentally disturbed
Yeah, there should be help for them, but often there isn't. Only a ridiculously small percentage of people with mental help problems get help. The vast majority doesn't (I don't know the exact percentages offhand).
if you see a blade keep away if you dont its your own fault ,try a caravan in haven its quite relaxing(bar for the bar prices)
This is down to the brilliant idea that the Government came up with - to let people with serious mental problems have "care in the community". The only problem is they forgot to provide the care required.
This has left many vulnerable people in the community with serious mental disorders alone, confused and without the necessary help needed. They forget to take medication, they often tell the authorities that they fear they may kill and still get ignored - sadly for everyone concerned, they carry out their thoughts and an innocent person dies. The government do not care - simple as that.
Well people think that they should be treated normal but if they dnager other people they just be locked up even if it makes them unhappy. If more people benifit from it it should be done.
(Just like testing on animals)
The mental health care system is totally overloaded. So no, there really is no help to control these people at the moment.
Typically, if the person isn't "deemed a threat", they're let out. Unfortunately, unless they commit a serious violent act, they're revolving doored. And if they do, it's the equivalent of jail.
We have a neighbor who's a serial stalker of woman, and an abrasive, violent person. But he hasn't seriously hurt anyone yet. Because he's mentally challenged, he isn't taken seriously. His recent escapade got him a fine for $500 that he can't pay (full mental disability, no job). He would go up to Shop-rite grocery store and start feeding the pigeons... and start arguing violently with the drivers of cars who ran over the bread. He was told by security it's not allowed. Over and over.
His damaged answer was "there's no sign that says I can't!"
So they spent $5,000 posting signs all over stating "No pigeon feeding in accordance with code..violators will be.Fined"
So next time, he was ticketed.
This along with the stalking... which is inconvenient and annoying to local women (he hasn't raped or *seriously attacked* a woman...yet).
He's obviously crazy, but every time he ends up before the judge...well, they don't want to be bothered.
These people are like stepping in sh*t. You try to avoid it, and people are sympathetic when it happens...but they don't want to be near you when the smell is on you...and no one wants to deal with cleaning it up!
I work with people with mental health problems who have been kicked out of hospitals, and they are either care in the community (so they need regular visits to make sure they take their medication, but I turn up to find that they are not in, that they are on the street somewhere, so I have to find them) or they are just self-help. It's absolutely disgraceful. I am out till all hours of the night tracking them down and visiting homes etc so that incidents like PC Henry do not happen. But do you realise how few of us there really are? The pay is rubbish, the hours are all over the place. Why do you think that 'surely people should be there'? Are you there? Do you have ANY idea what it's like to be on the really sharp end? I bet you don't. You just want them off the streets. OK - you get them off the streets.
because not all people who havee a mental health problem are dangerous if they stay on their mrdication and see their their therapist and pshchayrist because i have one myself
I know what you mean.These people should be kept in hospital but the problem is always about money.How much it cost to keep them in and there's so many people in already that don't have to be in.
Firstly because most mental health problems do not cause people to be a danger to the public. Secondly because people are not machines, they are individuals, so it is impossible to predict exactly what they will do or not do. Thirdly, even if you do know that somebody is a risk to the public, you cant just lock somebody up in case they might do something. People are innocent until proven guilty. How would you like it if a judge or a doctor locked YOU up just in case you MIGHT commit a burglary or bank robbery?
But when a specific individual has a history of random violence, then I completely agree with you that "Care in the Community" and hoping they will take their meds, is not good enough.
It is understandable that you are upset and bitter. However about one in ten of the population will have a mental health problem of one sort or another at one time in their lives.
Unfortunately some forms of mental disorder such as psychopathy are untreatable, and sometimes useful many captains of industry are psychopathic.
Many other types of mental disease are, even with the best help currently available, still unpredictable.
in theory you are right.
in practice its another matter.
There are too few "beds" and psychiartic nurses to support the amount of our of control/harmful people, its a bit like the prison system- people get early release so the next lot have room. The community is suposed to "care" for them (called "care in the community") but were and are never asked to in the first place, its all just assumed.
There is poor education on either side and so both parties suffer fear of the other. Sometimes people do stupid things when they are afraid...
It would be great to say these people who are a threat should be supervised, but it'll never happen, the nhgs have to cut thgier funding from somewhere and all to frequently its to those who do not argue back.
ugh i just felt like asking this,I hate it.people who have are mentally ill or people who are just slow mentally retarted(politcally correct?)I should know my mother MI.My dad and I have had to put up with her bull for 14 years and finnally divorced.Should of seen it coming seeing as the divorce rate for bipolar disorder patient is 90%.My mother this summer has completely changed started out when I asked her nicely not to attend my graduation(just like bd patient)she goes and takes half her family and drags along a family friend.I got so pist at her,to make it worse after graduation she was in a sick mood overly excited but rude.She made my dad buy pizzas and have a party for HER side of the family.We kicked her out to her house which as of know is finished.Sadly its next door to her parents who are elderly and are happy,till there daughter moved in.She is runing there last years of life,shes stolen alot of there past posseions and mine!!!!!!she went to a hospital for a week came back and was worse.Just yesterday they took her to San Antonio where hopefully there will be help.If I were at the legal age Id sue ther MHMR for not helping her cause all they do is sit on there asses till something happens.
and ya im agreeing with the questions.take care of them!!
Your question is based on emotion rather than fact,as most people with mental health problems are harmless to themselves and others.Its upto psychiatrists to decide who is released or detained and of all the decisions they make a small percentage are wrong.Theres a massive difference between someone getting treated for,say a phobia,and a violent psychopath who killed PC Henry.That person should be locked up securely,but not everyone.Then again, there are psychiatrists and their teams who probably release patients because they dont want to treat them-which very wrong.
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