Why do people talk bad about people who commit suicide?
Question:
People make a big deal about how much you hurt your family and friends, people get over death all the time. A person suffering has to put up with it for years, so not to upset a handful of people for a few weeks?
I have thought about it many times, but have been unable to bring myself to do it. Aren't I then the weak one?
Suicide is a response to a person's problems outweighing their ability to cope. Also, some people ar just wired a bit differently to begin with. If you cannot understand that, then you have obviously never been there and have no right to judge.
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I don't agree. Suicide IS cowardly, weak and selfish. EVERYONE thinks about it at one time or another. The ones who don't do it are usually the ones who don't want to hurt their family, friends.those are the ones who end up dealing with the problems in their lives----instead of ending their lives. People who don't kill themselves are the ones WITH GUTS. Those who kill themselves---are gutless. It wouldn't be considered the MOST UNFORGIVABLE SIN in just about every culture and religion if it weren't.
Because it is the unforgivable sin.
I think that many people do feel like you described--that it hurts so many other people, and in that way it is selfish. It is true that unless you have been suicidal (and I have), then it is very hard to understand why ending your life seems necessary or the only option. HOwever, I do think that it is a far better solution to get help and get yourself better than to end a life that has potential and hurt everyone who loves you. I was suicidal in college, and now am as happy as ever. Things can change.
Because it takes a lot more guts to stand up and face your problems, move on and grow than it does to simply end everything.
I'm pretty sure that's why those people are called gutless cowards.
I'm in no way saying that is how I feel; merely that it makes logical sense to assume such things.
It takes a lot of physical courage to commit the act in that moment, but it takes a lot more courage from every other aspect of life to keep going and grow.
No one has a right to judge. They don't live with that persons pain. Everyone deals with pain differently in their lives and some people are better at coping and finding ways to deal with it. I think they should feel bad for that person and not the family so much in that situation. A lot of people are quick to judge and talk badly about others because they choose to deal with things differently than they would. I think it is awful and should mind their own business.
I have been there, and I still say that it's selfish. If a few weeks is all it takes for the sting of your death to go away then your family is full of jerks.
No, it doesn't take a lot of guts; in fact it doesn't take any at all. What takes guts is carrying on even when you don't feel like living instead of giving up.
Suicide is a permanent solution to temporary problems.
Your not the weak one cuz your not letting a stupid little problem get to you... no problem is worth losing your life over. Suicide is just the wrong answer! So stop thinking about it.
Hi pickle
I wonder about myself the same question. I agree 100%
No one knows what they are going thro nor what they are thinking about at the time
I just took 8 percocets I feel great finally and am spending my last time on the internet what a lame I am.
good luck to you.
Why can it not be called weak, to use your words its an inability to cope. That is weak.
Why not selfish. Poor me, I can't take it, no one understands me, sounds selfish to me.
Cowardly indeed. Fear of failure. Afraid of putting themselves on the line like everyone else does every day and being rejected. Stand up and take your knocks like everyone else, so what if they hurt. To lay down and let them walk over you hurts too.
Stop making excuses,and I'll stop judging.
I think when someone kills themselves it hurts the people around them for more than a few weeks, more like probably the rest of their life. However I do understand what you are saying and I kinda agree.
You are absolutely right. Most people are ignorant of the subject, judgemental, and in truth they feel a little more powerful and in control and feel superiour in everyway by putting down those that fight this fight. And it is a matter of running out of resources to fight the pain.not a character weakness etc. Those are facts but we have to use the facts to "find more resources" NOT as a reason to do it. You are obviously very inteligent. So accept the fact that "those people" are selfish and uninformed, etc.and who cares what they think. The truth is the only thing that matters. Since we(yea, I'm fighing it hard too) know the truth, we also have to accept the rest of the truths.
1, How we feel right now will get better.We have managed to hold on long enough to feel better before. So do it again, a moment at a time.
2. We are, despite our "feelings" right now, wonderfuly made, deserve a great futured and are worthiy of a better life.
3. All of us are believing a "lie" of some kind when we are really on the edge. "We" deserve the time it takes to uncover those lies and replace them with truths.which may take some help.
4. Yes it takes courage to take your own life. It takes far MORE courage to hang in there and believe you are WORTH living.and take control of something, anything. We must take control of something because we probably feel we are in control of nothing...except taking our life away. So take a major step ...and take control of something positive...no matter what it is. Maybe deciding it really is worth living a little while longer while trying to find some answers.or really deciding and believing you(we) are worth it. Or deciding to go wash the dishes, or warm up some milk on the stove. Take charge of something positive NOW. If you need some help email or IM me now in Yahoo under mysihba.
You are not the "weak one" for not doing it. The opposite is true. It takes alot more strengh for me to NOT pull the trigger and the same for you. Deep down inside we know...there is a better way, there are lies we feel are truths, and we are worthy of living and being happy...and it can and will happen.
I have worked Fire/EMS for years until I was retired early...with PTSD. I have cleaned up too many suicide messes to count, and dealt with the survivors, and yes, dealt with those that ended up in worse shape than dead. And it all took a huge toll on me. One would think that dealing with all those messes would prevent me from doing it ?? I'm running out of resources to deal with the pain too
You are right , people get over death. You can't imagine what goes thru the minds of the survivors, some never get over it, and some run out of their own resouces and kill themselves in response to the first suicide.
I doubt if "war" stories would help you at all but glad to share them if you want.
How about if we help each other out...remind ourselves and each other of the TRUTH. There are some lies somewhere that we feel are truths. Uncovering those lies solves at least some of the problems that got us here. In truth we have too much self respect to give up, give in, or believe the lies other tells us.
The TRUTH is we aren't weak. We have too much courage to take our own lives. We have enough courage to take charge of something/anything including a decision to not take our life right now, (our thoughts/others' opinion of us.who cares). Take contol of anything you can think of and do it now.like deciding that you are too intelligent, good looking and deserving of a good life.. to cut your life short. Decide to take control of anything. Go for a walk, anything...IM me.
Maybe we can remind each other of the lies we believe and replace them with the truths. And decide we each have the courage to take contol of one little piece of ..anything.and then another. Knowing these feelings will pass, and life can get better. Accept the fact we have too much courage to do it...and too much intelligence. It's simply not an option because we both know too much truth..and we both know we can get more tools to cope.we just need to keep buying a little time, moment by moment, day by day.and deciding to take control.of finding help, and getting more tools...
THANK YOU for saying that.
i am suicidal myself, which i spose makes me biased, but i think it isn't wrong and it does take a lot of guts. people just don't think deeply about what is involved. as you said, there is the possibility of it going wrong and the person ending up seriously damaged. also, depending on the method, it can be VERY painful. there have been people that have swallowed bleach, which corroded the stomach lining, and the stomach acid then ate away at their insides. they were in such agony that they threw themselves through glass. i can't even start to imagine such physical pain. also, people don't think as to the pain and suffering that has caused that person to consider suicide in the first place. people say it is selfish to commit suicide, but isn't it selfish to expect someone to live a life where they are suffering so much?
i'm glad you have made people think - as you said, people have no right to judge, especially so harshly, when they haven't been there themselves.
probaly because people in this world try to avoid things like that. they all want the world to be nice and soft. They dont want to believe people have problems. But secretly, at least once in their life, they would have wanted to die. people dont have the rite to judge people. if they were in tht persons life than i garuntee they wouldnt make fun anymore. I have a friend that tried to commit suicide. i have once too. its not a cry for help, ur rite, its just the way they choose to deal with it, because they feel theres no other way. Plus, to bullies, they see the suicidal person as an easy target and a joke. when really, the bullies make it worse, instead of helping you like they think they do by saying "wake up you suicidal twit, lifes great, ur just a wierdo, get a life and not a knife!" i think this world should try and help suicidal people, not bully them and make them feel worse.
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